I need to nag my mom into getting me the membership today.

I can understand some screaming when the song starts but why are they talking during WT. Driving me crazy. We should definatley take their places

i love this one...specially the start

Recently (as in since last night), I find myself loving this song...

^YAY!! *throws WT confetti* :D GLEE! It's really an AMAZING song.

Yeah, it got me thinking, which made me mad...which is turn made me listen to WHYD :bom:

The Corss is definatley one of Wt's best songs and a lot of time was spent on it So it is truely a masterpiece

Carried from the "You Know You're Obsessed Thread":

Onno wrote:

However, I can't stop my story here. I never thought I'd say this, but there is one thing I hate them for. And that's the re-usage of that incredibly tasteless video for The Cross. While at Black Symphony the screen was many metres above the stage, now it was inavoidable, right behind them. My friend went through some serious troubles a while ago, and because of that video all those memories and feelings came up again. Now it still haunts her mind occasionally. Way to go WT.

Deceiver-Of-Fools wrote:

Yeah, I don't apppreciate the footage for The Cross either.

KellieBent wrote:

Oh I dont really mind The Cross footage but I can see how it could really upset some people.

It probably should bother me, considering I'm one of those people...but it doesn't. I don't mind it. Maybe it's because The Cross is such a close song to me anyway that that kind of footage only brings it closer.

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I just don't think it should have been highlighted the way it was at BS...I mean, they didn't do the intercutting between footage and visualisation for many other songs. It just seemed superfluous.

I thought that was cool. Personally, I think they should've done it for more songs, but it was kind of weird that they only did it for The Cross (that I noticed). I liked it.

It's in other songs too. I remember one image from Hand of Sorrow, maybe some in The Howling too, but definitely the most in The Cross.

It seems you are all over your troubles, Andy? It's ironic because The Cross was one of my friend's favourites too. Now she skips it in Black Symphony. But it's not just that. Although I'm not as effected by it as my friend, I still grab my arm, you know? (I'm a bit of a hypochondriac). And many young people come to their shows, do they have to think it's okay to cut yourself?

Yeah, I think I remember those too. Guess I wasn't paying close enough attention. But it was really noticeable in The Cross, which is probably why it only appeared to me then

Heh. Yeah, I am. =\ I blame my father. He started all this bull.

I understand how some, or even most people would dislike them. And I do see your point about the young 'uns. And I'll leave it at that, 'cause I feel no need to argue. It bothers some, doesn't others.

I just related so closely to the girl in the visuals that...I dunno. It almost felt like I was watching myself (even though she was blond, etc.). And, I think that our pasts make us who we are, regardless of how messy and undesirable they are. If the things that have happened to me hadn't, I wouldn't be who I am today. So I think things that remind me of my past (such as TC visuals) are not horrific, but beautiful in a way. Does that sound weird?

I do see how it could bring back bad memories and feeling but I think maybe it is used as like a help for people so they can relate to it and try to heal. I mean thats what most songs do for people they help them heal over things. I know it seems a little shocking and maybe unnecessary but I kind of see it as a way for people to heal. Like for me Somewhere has helped me heal no matter how much it upsets me. Although I dont think they'd use a visual for my interpretation

Ok I keep saying heal. It doesnt even look like I spelt it right now

I dont think they meant it to be upsetting though. It's just a very powerful piece of footage.

I was shocked when I first saw the footage, but it doesn't really bother me, even though I'm also one of "those people." I think maybe they are just doing it to bring awareness to the subject? I really don't think they are saying it's okay to cut yourself.

Maybe. I think it's weird in a way that we keep talking about these visualistions, and yet the Frozen video isn't that much of a topic anymore.

Well, a lot of people can connect to Frozen's video as well...but it's not as..visual, I guess. Gory? Something like that. The visuals for The Cross were pretty graphic, as are Frozen's...but Frozen's music video doesn't show any blood, and it was really obviously bringing awareness to the subject.

Well Frozens video really should be more shocking but as you said Andy The Cross's visuals are more gory. I suppose it helped that Frozen was for charity so people werent as shocked. Also Frozen only implies the violence and abuse really whereas The Cross was blatent and in your face.

True....

This song still has a very personal meaning for me, though. I don't see it as a religious song, but instead as a song about someone who has been ignored or hurt by someone close to them.

For me it`s a very personal song...i almost cry when i listen to it..
and the tempo and the rythm are fab-tastic!
not really my fave from THoE but still one of my favorites

It's my favourite on THoE

Also a good song to play when you're angry Caged and The Cross have helped me so much.