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PostSubject: The Cross   The Cross EmptySun Apr 13, 2008 10:40 pm

A very relatable song. I really like it Smile
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PostSubject: Re: The Cross   The Cross EmptyMon Apr 14, 2008 11:34 am

I like this song but not too much. It's not bad but.. Neutral
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PostSubject: Re: The Cross   The Cross EmptyMon Apr 14, 2008 11:35 am

I like this song quite a bit actually, Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: The Cross   The Cross EmptyThu Jun 19, 2008 12:27 am

I always thought it was a bit poppy, but I still love it.
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PostSubject: Re: The Cross   The Cross EmptyThu Jun 19, 2008 8:04 am

I adore this song. The chorus is REALLY catchy Smile
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PostSubject: Re: The Cross   The Cross EmptySat Jun 28, 2008 4:44 pm

I love this song! For a while it was my favorite song on THOE. I thought it was a wonderful departure from the usual, and it sounded beautiful and full of passion.
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PostSubject: Re: The Cross   The Cross EmptySun Jun 29, 2008 12:59 am

And how HIGH her voice goes in the beginning. I can't tell if that's digitally raised or if she was actually able to hit those notes.
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PostSubject: Re: The Cross   The Cross EmptySun Jun 29, 2008 5:06 am

I can reach those notes...it's about the same as in angels, but it's also easier to hit notes while singing "AH" than actual words.
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PostSubject: Re: The Cross   The Cross EmptySun Jun 29, 2008 11:53 am

Doesn't it go way higher than in Angels? I mean, I can hit the Angels note fine if I try. But I can only get the lowest note she hits during the really high part and that takes a LOT of trying.
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PostSubject: Re: The Cross   The Cross EmptySun Jun 29, 2008 4:26 pm

Are you talking about the "ahhs"? I'm a bit...it might be higher than angels..the only note in angels I can't hit is "now we have reached the end" which is I think very much similar notes. It does sound higher, I think it is compressed to sound clearer, and crisper.
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PostSubject: Re: The Cross   The Cross EmptyMon Jun 30, 2008 1:05 am

It's higher. Smile But only by a little.
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PostSubject: Re: The Cross   The Cross EmptyMon Jun 30, 2008 1:27 am

*Knows nothing of the highness of notes*

I dunno...prolly my least favorite song on THoE. Can't say why...just isn't as epic for me. scratch
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PostSubject: Re: The Cross   The Cross EmptyMon Jun 30, 2008 1:46 am

Are you kidding?! It's super epic!
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PostSubject: Re: The Cross   The Cross EmptyMon Jun 30, 2008 3:33 am

*Goes to reevaluate the epicness of The Cross* Oh wait..my compy randomly deleted THoE Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: The Cross   The Cross EmptyMon Jun 30, 2008 7:51 am

LOL!

I guess "aaah"ing just opens up my throat a lot so it's a ton easier to sing those notes. hehe
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PostSubject: Re: The Cross   The Cross EmptyFri Jul 04, 2008 4:12 pm

when i first heard this song i wasn't too keen on it but now i can't get enough of it
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PostSubject: Re: The Cross   The Cross EmptySat Jul 05, 2008 8:46 am

I think it'd make a great song for a promo video or something. Just the chorus though. Maybe a verse when it first starts out and someone's talking or something. But I can just picture it. And if I didn't fail so much at making videos, I'd make it.
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PostSubject: Re: The Cross   The Cross EmptyTue Sep 23, 2008 11:24 pm

I think The Cross is my favourite song off THoE.

I love it so much. I think it's the 'ah's that got me Smile Just sounds amazing Smile
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PostSubject: Re: The Cross   The Cross EmptyMon Sep 29, 2008 4:32 pm

This is becoming one of my favorite songs period. The lyrics are just I guess for lack of better term deep. After watching this on Black Symphony it gave me another meaning for this song for my own life especially relating it with the visuals and everything. The song already to me was like an outcry to a person that has hurt you in a serious way and let you down let you are still calling to them with tears in your eyes yet deep down wondering why you would call out to this person who had hurt you so badly. The visuals in BS showed me another meaning, one that really cuts deep to me, like it's crying out to god saying WTF god you let me down but I'm still crying out to you though you let me get hurt saying you'd never abandon me but look what happened. This song has so many thoughts entwined in it and I love how I can truly relate it to my own experiences in those ways.
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PostSubject: Re: The Cross   The Cross EmptyMon Sep 29, 2008 7:03 pm

*hugs Leia*

I know what you mean. I really relate to it too. I saw in an interview that it's Sharons favourite song to preform XD Makes me happy because it is a favourite of mine.
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PostSubject: Re: The Cross   The Cross EmptyWed Oct 01, 2008 9:35 pm

Fork Ninja wrote:
*Knows nothing of the highness of notes*

I dunno...prolly my least favorite song on THoE. Can't say why...just isn't as epic for me. scratch
It's not epic in the WT sense of the word, but it's pretty damn awesome.
I have no idea what it's about though. I remember an interview with Sharon saying it was about the personal hardships of a particular band member, but nothing more.

Here's a part of an interview where the interviewer seems to love The Cross:
CK: I’m getting the privilege of a lifetime, I’ve seen you in New York two rows away and the other night five rows away, I’ve seen the big show vicariously through the dvds, but to see you perform right in front of me, it’s unbelievable. Let’s get to the album, I love all the songs on the new album – there are too many to mention and you don’t have the time to go through them all so, I wanted to focus on “The Cross”, your vocal performance on that track particularly when you say “My Dear”….

SDA: Yeah.

CK: It is so venomous, cutting, slightly sarcastic and so subtle at the same time, only a listener who really loves music can hear all of that in just those two words.

SDA: I think it’s pretty impressive that you say that because that is how I tried to approach it. Yes, it says a lot of things (laughs) …

CK: It’s the way you deliver “My Dear” – it does all of that, it says so much in two simple words. And I just love it every time I hear it, and I could never hear it enough. Do you have a particular vocal performance on this new album that you are most proud of?

SDA: Well, there are two songs I am proud of. That song in particular became very special to me. I love the song, it’s one of my favorites. It almost did not make the album because of the fact that I wrote it together with Martijn in a different tempo but it was too quick, you couldn’t really play guitar to it. So, I wanted it to be really heavy, slow, dramatic, and really an angry kind of song, but it didn’t work out. It took me a year to get the right rhythm and right atmosphere and it finally made it to the album in the last few weeks of the recording. So, I finally got to say “Yay!”.

CK: It took you a year? It’s a masterpiece.

SDA: Yeah, it took a year to get it to the final way it became. It had a totally different rhythm. It was much faster, it had the same atmosphere but it was much faster before.
But, you couldn’t play guitar to it the way it was before, so I had to make it much slower and find the right rhythm. So, I heard a song on the radio and I recorded a piece of it and handed it to the producer and said, “ok, this is the rhythm I want to have more or less.” He totally understood what I meant and then everything began to fall into place and then we finished it.

CK: Was it one of the last things you recorded so it was almost like a miracle at the end of the recording sessions?

SDA: Yeah, actually a little bit because we almost gave up literally on it so... And the other song I’m really proud of is “The Heart of Everything” because I sing with a heavier kind of way, a little bit more aggressive, and I thought I could never do it. If you play a certain song in a certain tonality like this very low and very heavy then I can’t sing it like I sang on “Mother Earth” apply a very high vocal because it doesn’t come across then. It needs balls and I had to search for mine a little bit.

CK: Yeah, I think some of my friends who also love your music when they first heard it they said to me is that Sharon?

SDA: (Laughs ……)

RW: It’s her.

CK: I love it. Two more things on “The Cross” and I’ll get off that one, the instrumentation on that track, it’s very weird, there is a distorted cello on there and Stephen played the drum track on a crappy drum set?

RW: Yeah, yeah, exactly that’s the story and it became for us the experimental song on the album.

CK: It’s very experimental and that’s what I love about your band every time you take a new chance, I’m right there with you.

RW: I think we need that as a band. Every time we try new things for ourselves. That is also where we get our inspiration. So that track was really an eye opener to try out a lot of new things.

CK: Another thing I completely adore on that track and I swear I’ll drop it on this – I call it the laugh track.

SDA: Laughs …. The laugh track? (She starts to imitate the vocal)

CK: It was always there, you were just experimenting?

SDA: I was just experimenting, I also did it in on another song, but we had it taken out as it was just too strange. But, it just seemed to fit that song with the slight sarcasm kind of thing and the lyrics ….

CK: Yeah, yeah, you’re mocking the person.

SDA: Yeah, it just fit with that song and also the (she sings a vocal melody that follows the keyboard line on the opening of the track)

CK: Yeah, that’s the part that follows the piano part. The first time I played someone that part as I wanted to turn them onto it, he was like I can’t believe her voice on that part – it is so high - Yeah, it’s real.

SDA: Yes, at first it was a vocal line by itself, then he started playing over it in the studio and trying different things out and then someone came up with the idea to pitch my vocals, so it’s a little bit pitched, that is what you hear, so it’s a combination ….

RW: That’s a combination of her normal voice with a pitched vocal.

SDA: Yeah, we recorded another vocal an octave higher and pitched it. So, it’s comes across a little natural but also has a creepy kind of feel to it.
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PostSubject: Re: The Cross   The Cross EmptyWed Oct 01, 2008 10:12 pm

Awsome! Very Happy very interesting xD
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PostSubject: Re: The Cross   The Cross EmptyWed Oct 01, 2008 11:20 pm

As much of an ass-kss I'd be meeting Sharon... holy crap that guy was an ass-kiss.
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PostSubject: Re: The Cross   The Cross EmptyThu Oct 02, 2008 1:14 am

He really was xD Though...I was a pretty big ass-kiss too. XD

That's really interesting though Very Happy Thanks for posting, DoF! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: The Cross   The Cross EmptyThu Oct 02, 2008 6:28 pm

Smile Thanks for posting. Just makes me love The Cross even more. Wow it's good to get even more perspective on the song.

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