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PostSubject: The WT Wiki Project!   Sat Oct 25, 2008 5:41 pm

I know I'm not the only one who hates to see the sparse Wiki pages on some WT related topics, so here is our place to flesh them out. Please make sure you have fully sourced, referenced material, and post it here prior to putting it on Wiki so we can add to/verify it, etc.
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PostSubject: Re: The WT Wiki Project!   Sat Oct 25, 2008 5:48 pm

Well according to awakened.de Sharon is a vegatarian and eats white meat once a week. Clicky.

I think that used to be on there. >.<

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PostSubject: Re: The WT Wiki Project!   Sat Oct 25, 2008 5:52 pm

I remember seeing on the Wiki page. I think we should just find as many interviews as we can...was Koshiro the name of the blue rock band she used to be in?? I think I remember reading that in Starfacts...there was a picture too.

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PostSubject: Re: The WT Wiki Project!   Sat Oct 25, 2008 8:46 pm

Nope it was Kashiro.

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- What was your first band?

Sharon: At 14 I took a course at a music school about how to form a band. One year later I sang in a bluesrock band Kashiro. We played covers of Van Halen, Journey, Pink Floyd, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Queen, The Red Hot Chili Peppers and many more.


Check out Franneke's "old interview with sharon"

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PostSubject: Re: The WT Wiki Project!   Sat Oct 25, 2008 9:12 pm

I knew it was something like that.

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PostSubject: Re: The WT Wiki Project!   Sat Oct 25, 2008 9:43 pm

Would it also be possible to create pages for Restless, Our Farewell and Mother Earth Tour? I'm not a Wikipedia member myself...

The page for Jillian, for example, has some flaws
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jillian_(I%27d_Give_My_Heart)

- Martijn isn't mentioned as having written the music for the song
- Music video: the sentence is pretty unclear. I'd write something like
"The video for this song contains footage of their The Silent Force Tour DVD, including scenes from the live performance at Java Island, Amsterdam and backstage scenes"
- Formats and tracklistings: Pretty vague. Firstly it should be noted that there is no official single for Jillian, only promos. And the correct tracklist for one of those promos can be found here: http://medlem.spray.se/wtcollection/?page=list&titlesearch=jillian&tracksearch=&typeEnum1=Album&typeEnum2=Single&typeEnum3=Other
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PostSubject: Re: The WT Wiki Project!   Sun Oct 26, 2008 2:51 pm

Good idea Smile I'll have a read through all the interviews I have and see if I can find some good facts Smile

About time WT's Wiki page got filled up again.

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PostSubject: Re: The WT Wiki Project!   Sun Oct 26, 2008 3:59 pm

If I have time later, I'll transcribe some of the FC interviews because they are always full of interesting questions.

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PostSubject: Re: The WT Wiki Project!   Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:19 am

*resurrects* The Wiki page has WT down as plain old rock unless they get more symphonic metal sources. Can interviews on YT count?

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PostSubject: Re: The WT Wiki Project!   Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:17 am

YES.

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PostSubject: Re: The WT Wiki Project!   Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:55 am

OK then, we should get together all the websites and interviews that say symphonic metal/rock, so we can have a few references, so they can't remove it. They have WT under Rock and Ev under Metal...yeah right. Wiki = fail.

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PostSubject: Re: The WT Wiki Project!   Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:34 am

great idea girls! Very Happy
I wonder about Sharon's religion, somewhere I read she's wiccan ??? but I dunno Razz could you talk about please? Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: The WT Wiki Project!   Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:37 am

She was raised Catholic, but she hasn't mentioned what religion she is now.

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PostSubject: Re: The WT Wiki Project!   Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:14 pm

Franneke wrote:
great idea girls! Very Happy
I wonder about Sharon's religion, somewhere I read she's wiccan ??? but I dunno Razz could you talk about please? Very Happy


She was raised Catholic, or at least Christian, but doesn't practice much anymore.
She doesn't talk about her religion, because she doesn't want it to affect how people listen to the music. She does wear crosses a lot though, so I doubt she's a Wiccan, just a lapsed Catholic.

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PostSubject: Re: The WT Wiki Project!   Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:08 pm

So I registered at Wikipedia today and I added a part to the WHYD page... What do y'all think? Are the sentences correct? Razz
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PostSubject: Re: The WT Wiki Project!   Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:08 pm

The Live Performances part is it?? You should include the fact that Keith also appeared at Dauwpop (Here's a review of the festival referring to it: http://www.reflectionsofdarkness.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2164&Itemid=43).
RR Australia also used the live video of WHYD at BS for promotion, and it has been aired on Scuzz too.
Maybe add the fact that the crowd generally sing Keith's parts, as well as the projection.

What's with the weird shot of Sharon beside it? I haven't seen the WHYD page in ages. Can we not use nicer shots?






Otherwise though....yay for starting the project! I say we pick a different topic each week and build it up.

I found some more info on the two videos:
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We were disappointed with the first video of the song. The official one is a whole different video with a different director. The first one was shot in London in a bar and a 'jungle'. In the end we didn't like it at all. The band shots were too dark and the 'jungle' part didn't look very convincing. That's why we decided to invest in another video. With that one we were pretty much satisfied from the beginning.


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PostSubject: Re: The WT Wiki Project!   Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:18 pm

The weird shot was already there. Razz I don't really know what Wikipedia's rules are towards images. I think it has to be a free image or an image owned by yourself or something.

I knew about Dauwpop, but isn't that a little too detailed for Wikipedia? And that part about the videos is good, I knew it, but I didn't remember from where.
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PostSubject: Re: The WT Wiki Project!   Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:22 pm

I don't see why the Dauwpop is too detailed. Mentioning that they performed together before, but not mentioning where, will lead people to ask about it anyway.
I might have posted that bit about the videos somewhere here before Razz
Does the THOE page have info on how the collaboration came about, or should we put some in the WHYD page? There are loads of interviews about it....there's a good one where Sharon talks about the original demo of the song.

::EDIT:: Here:
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“When we wrote this song, the first way was just my vocals”, she continues. “When we did the demo, Robert and I were signing the song together, it had more balls I think”, she laughs. “It has more aggression I think and we said OK, this needs to be a duet. We needed some energy that would fit my voice and also the song. We said we always liked Keith, and we said lets play him the song and see if he likes it. So we sent it to him, and he lives in Holland for a big part of the time because he has a side project with a lot of Dutch musicians. We got in contact with him through them and he liked the song and two weeks later we were recording it.


“His voice totally fit my voice, which we didn’t know of course, but we hoped it would. The cherry on the cake was that he was a very nice person. Most times when you like bands, they are not always the nicest people”, she says laughing. “You never know how people are personally when they are in their own surroundings. He was very relaxed and just a very nice guy.”

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PostSubject: Re: The WT Wiki Project!   Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:08 pm

I didnt know Sharon was raised Catholic. I cant really see her being religious now you know shes not married and she has a child. Unless she just takes from parts of it. Religion is complex I suppose.

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PostSubject: Re: The WT Wiki Project!   Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:51 pm

If we want to be very detailed, we should maybe create a personal wiki, kinda like evanescencereference.info... Then you can also add pages for every song with lyrics and such, pages for memorable concerts, setlists, dresses, anything. Razz
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