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PostSubject: Forgiven   Forgiven EmptySun Apr 13, 2008 10:43 pm

My favorite WT song, ever. I have to hold back tears when I hear it.
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PostSubject: Re: Forgiven   Forgiven EmptySun Apr 13, 2008 10:45 pm

Wow, thi song is so sad I almost start crying when I hear it Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Forgiven   Forgiven EmptyThu Jun 19, 2008 3:15 pm

Makes me cry too... I want it at my funeral.
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PostSubject: Re: Forgiven   Forgiven EmptyThu Jun 19, 2008 3:28 pm

I think Our Farewell and Forgiven are about the same person... But I'm afraid to ask Sharon or the band about it, cause apparently someone asked her about Forgiven and she got really sad.
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PostSubject: Re: Forgiven   Forgiven EmptyThu Jun 19, 2008 3:46 pm

I want them both at my funeral, looking at the titles it would be best to do Forgiven then Our Farewell, but listening to the songs it would be better the other way round.
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PostSubject: Re: Forgiven   Forgiven EmptyFri Jun 20, 2008 7:28 am

Deceiver-Of-Fools wrote:
But I'm afraid to ask Sharon or the band about it, cause apparently someone asked her about Forgiven and she got really sad.

Yeah...I'd be nervous to do that too. Wouldn't want to depress her...I'd feel so bad.
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PostSubject: Re: Forgiven   Forgiven EmptySun Jun 29, 2008 9:40 am

Deceiver-Of-Fools wrote:
I think Our Farewell and Forgiven are about the same person... But I'm afraid to ask Sharon or the band about it, cause apparently someone asked her about Forgiven and she got really sad.

*Goes after said with burning staves*
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PostSubject: Re: Forgiven   Forgiven EmptySun Jun 29, 2008 11:54 am

xD They were only curious, I'm sure. They probably didn't want to make her sad...
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PostSubject: Re: Forgiven   Forgiven EmptyFri Jul 04, 2008 4:23 pm

myabe it was about someone who was close to her and the people didn't realise
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PostSubject: Re: Forgiven   Forgiven EmptySat Jul 05, 2008 8:40 am

More than likely. Smile Usually songs about death are. xD
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PostSubject: Re: Forgiven   Forgiven EmptySat Jul 05, 2008 10:06 am

Wow...I didn't realize it was...but that makes sense. Like, it doesn't matter what you did to me in life...it's all forgiven.
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PostSubject: Re: Forgiven   Forgiven EmptySat Jul 05, 2008 4:32 pm

yeah and that's what i like about this song
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PostSubject: Re: Forgiven   Forgiven EmptySat Jul 05, 2008 5:09 pm

Yeah, thats why I've related to it so much Crying or Very sad
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PostSubject: Re: Forgiven   Forgiven EmptySat Oct 04, 2008 11:01 pm

Forgiven is a beautiful song Smile Makes me cry. I actually cried the first time I watched it at BS. And I dont cry at much Razz Maybe it's because I relate to it a lot.
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PostSubject: Re: Forgiven   Forgiven EmptySat Oct 04, 2008 11:20 pm

i cry everythime i listen to this song too have no idea why but this song touches the soul
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PostSubject: Re: Forgiven   Forgiven EmptyFri Oct 10, 2008 3:54 pm

I loved the song up until I found a Robin Hood video made to it. Now I laugh everytime I hear it.
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PostSubject: Re: Forgiven   Forgiven EmptyTue Oct 21, 2008 10:15 pm

Another acoustic version of Forgiven. Would have been perfect if it wasn't for the keyboard malfunction at the end:
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PostSubject: Re: Forgiven   Forgiven EmptyTue Oct 21, 2008 10:37 pm

That was amazing Smile It couldn't have come on a better day either. My friend committed sucide 2 years ago and today is 2 years since his funeral. I didnt actually get to go because I hadnt seen him for years Sad But WT just made my day... again Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Forgiven   Forgiven EmptyWed Jan 14, 2009 11:57 pm

I don't listen to this song a lot, it (like Pale) has the ability to make me cry. Especially the "you were looking for the great escape" line.

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PostSubject: Re: Forgiven   Forgiven EmptyThu Jan 15, 2009 1:49 pm

The combination of Forgiven followed by Somewhere on Black Symphony is very emotional. Does make me cry sometimes, and thats a hard thing to do Razz

It actually reminds me of my brother in a similar way to Somewhere. or atleast the whole situation. Means alot to me Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Forgiven   Forgiven EmptyMon Feb 02, 2009 9:05 pm

I just adore thi song..it almost makes me cry(but Frozen is the only WT song that i really do cry a lot!)and i don`t know it`s special..it`s my faorite ballad Wink
the saddest WT songs...
Enter:While the song are mory creppy than emotional i`d have to choose Gatekeeper,when Sharon sings "They dieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed"it almost makes me cry...
Mother Earth:Our farewell,without a doubt.I simply love it Smile
TSF:Somewhere..however is so beautiful..but i almost always cry with crocodile tears Bawling
THOE:Frozen and Forgiven are the saddest WT songs..I like Frozen,but I preffer Forgiven... Sobbing ..sorry these songs make me cry a lot...
and from The Dance i`d have to say Another Day.Isn`t sad..but...well i can`t really see the sad parts in The Dance or the Other half Of me.. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Forgiven   Forgiven EmptySat Apr 18, 2009 8:31 pm

This song makes me soo cry... Means a lot to me.
It's just lovely. And also it's one of my favourites to sing..
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PostSubject: Re: Forgiven   Forgiven EmptySun Apr 19, 2009 1:25 am

It's so beautiful and so fitting. I think I kind of block it out too though along with Somewhere. As much as they help with healing it hurts too.
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PostSubject: Re: Forgiven   Forgiven EmptyFri Jul 17, 2009 9:47 am

Looks like my mini-theory was partially right :-\ (check "All I Need" thread):

Quote :
We had a family friend. He emigrated to Indonesia when I was a toddler, where he married and started a family.
When he was back home, in The Netherlands, he regularly went to Friesland to visit his parents.
I was thirteen when he took me along on his trip up north, so I could visit a friend of mine who recently moved to Friesland.
Although I had known him all my life, I had never been alone with him for 2.5 hours.
He was a big and tall guy but shy, a man of few words, but that day he was talking the whole trip. He made me feel more at ease by talking to me and treat me like an adult.

He bought me a passport for Friesland and gave it to me in the car. For many years, a part of the population in Friesland wanted to separate Friesland from the rest of The Netherlands. It never happened, but they have small ways to keep that thought alive and to tease us; their dialet and amongst other things a fake passport.
Inside the passport there were all sorts of things; a map, discount coupons for the museum and shops and the typical need-to-go places for a tourist... lol.
I was pleasantly surprised and it definitely broke the ice, those 2.5 hours flew by. When the weekend ended he picked me up at my friend's place and drove me back home again.

Years after, when he had to work in The Netherlands, he rented a room at my grandma's place.
Those were happy days and each time he became a bit more a part of our family.

Everything changed in 2000, he wife wanted a divorce and she got it. When you marry in Indonesia you haven't got many rights when you are a foreigner; your kids, all your savings and your house automatically go to the "true" resident, in this case his wife.
She had the legal rights and she got everything they owned.
He came home a broken man, he had no money, no home, and an alcohol problem.
Although he got his old job back, had a new girlfriend, he wasn't the man he used to be.
I didn't see him that much after as our paths simply didn't cross, but the last time I did I realized that his problems were bigger than most could see.
At the beginning of "The Heart of Everything tour" he committed suicide.
The department he worked for was shut-down and he was unemployed, that was probably the last push.

It's strange that I didn't remember that weekend until the day I heard that he had died.
It was a special weekend, I think he was special, I'm just sorry I never told him that.
Forgiven is written through the eyes of a parent, but he was a friend and this song sometimes reminds me of him.
I could have explained the lyrics of this song, but in this case I think that is really a waste of time as they are so clear to my opinion.

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PostSubject: Re: Forgiven   Forgiven EmptyFri Jul 17, 2009 10:52 am

So,yes it's the same guy mentioned in All I Need?

Oh what a sad story,just how Forgiven is Crying or Very sad .I am so sorry for him,aswell for Sharon.
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